Fandango’s Provocative Question #33 – This, That, And The Other

Currently l have three WP Site Pages open on my screens , another screen holds a post l am working on with regards Honesty Confidence and a final screen open is to my email. I don’t often read the posts via my email, but on occasion sometimes something catches my eyes. Two posts have caught my eye today, one from Ursula of An Upturned Soul regarding an excellent topic which also happens to tie in with my Optimism series and Fandango’s Provocative Question, which it just so happens l was discussing with myself this morning whilst showering and shaving.

Fandango’s Provocative Question #33

Do you believe that one can be moral without believing in God or being religious, or do you believe that you must believe in God in order to have a moral compass and to live a moral life?”

I do not believe in the God of my learned childhood. I was raised by a Roman Catholic education, my mother was a Salvation Army girl who had to convert to Catholicism for my father and his family, so that they could marry. It was a lie even then, as my father was not a true Roman Catholic believer, and over his years he declined that belief, and right up until his death last year, he wanted nothing what so ever to do with religion. His family on his end of days wanted to take him to their family home in North Wales and honour his death the RC way – that was never going to happen. Despite all the differences my family and l have, my sister and l share and the differences of opinion between my father and myself also. His family were NEVER going to have their way on so called religious grounds.

My father chose to not believe in anything – fine – his choice. For me personally l am more an agnostic to his athiest beliefs. I am willing to be perhaps a bit more open on not just religion but on the unknown, supernatural and even supernature. I place more trust in other things other than religion. The simple fact is more basic – to believe in God is to believe in the unknowable – or we are simply unable to provide the right evidence that says yay or nay to the existence of God or Gods.

To my knowledge Agnosticism is not even a religion. So on those grounds, l am not a conventionally religious man, despite my upbringing as a child.

It matters not to me what another believes in personally, as long as it is not being force fed down another’s throat, harming others or the cause of any kind of illegal behaviour. People have the rights to choose to believe in what they desire to choose to believe in. It is not my position to judge another’s belief but to respect their wishes of freedom of choice. I do not expect anyone to believe in the way l choose to believe in what l believe in anymore than l should be expected to falsely believe in something l simply cannot believe in.

What does this have to do with Question #33? Well actually quite a bit.

Can l believe in a divine entity with 100% conventional, traditional  and personal conviction? No, l cannot – l choose to believe in myself, my motivations and enthusiasms for life, in my capabilities of being a moral person. A few weeks back in a post, l roughly used this quote to sit with the article l was writing …

“The word “enthusiasm” comes from the Greek word “entheos” which means the God within. And the happiest, most interesting people are those who have found the secret of maintaining their enthusiasm, that God within.” Earl Nightingale.

That sits with me just fine. We all have tremendous strength and capabilities if we choose to believe in ourselves. But many people choose to believe in other things – it is their perrogative.

Also on a post from Betty of Guidelines Web from only today l display this;

YOUR BELIEFS CREATE YOUR EXPERIENCE

YOUR BELIEFS CREATE YOUR WORLD

YOUR BELIEFS CREATE YOUR REALITY

In simple terms l find that this too sits with my own belief system – we are in control of who we are and what we believe in. Now let’s get back to Fandango’s Provocative Question #33  ….

“Do you believe that one can be moral without believing in God or being religious, or do you believe that you must believe in God in order to have a moral compass and to live a moral life?”

In simple no bullshit terminology and having explained where l sit with regards to both religion and the existence or non existence of deities or Gods – the answer is this:

I believe in who l am as a person, l am not an angel or a devil, l am not perfect and l am not imperfect, l am just me – l do not need to believe religiously in order to be a good human being, with a sense of what is right and what is wrong, correct or incorrect – l am just human. Life isn’t black and white, it’s a shitty opaque reality grey and it is down to us to know whether what we do is right or wrong, but more importantly, if we can live with our decisions on how we live our lives.

That’s NOT the responsibility of anyone else true or false, higher or lower, except us ourselves.

13 thoughts on “Fandango’s Provocative Question #33 – This, That, And The Other

  1. Thanks for taking the time, Rory, to respond to this question. I personally agree with most of what you wrote.

    1. Thanks Sadje, l should imagine that many people would have a different opinion. That’s the beauty of personal interpretation of a question and a topic. It’s an interesting topic and a small but not so simple question, well it is, and it isn’t basically as the topic subject is so very broad 🙂

  2. My mother was an avowed and rather angry atheist too. I was never sure if she was a “real” atheist who she just had some serious bones to pick with God. I don’t even know if I’m an agnostic. It think I’m simply a skeptic. I can’t fully believe in anything. I seem to be missing the ability to leap into faith.

    1. Truth is Marilyn, l think your response is the right response – l can’t leap into faith anymore than you can. The real truth is – l don’t know. Because l don’t honestly hand on heart know the ‘absolute truth’ and being a natural cynic or realist or even a pragmatist l struggle with it. The only thing that l know is true beyond a shadow of a doubt is me 🙂

      I hope you are keeping well and thanks for commenting 🙂

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